Use of CS instead of KCS

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kamran
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Use of CS instead of KCS

Post by kamran »

Consider the following situation:

Working Fluid: Ammonia
Operating Temperature= 33 degrees Celcius
Recommended material= Killed Carbon Steel (can withstand up to -45 degrees Celcius)

At some points Carbon Steel has been used (cannot go below -10 degrees Celcius).

It is realistic to expect that temperatures in the range of -20 and below would be scaled during start-ups and shut-downs.

It is worthy to operate the line for around 45 days with some CS spools?

Please advise.

Kamran
ben
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Re: Use of CS instead of KCS

Post by ben »

You must have known the phenomenon of Brittle Fracture associated with low temperature operation of steels due to reduced toughness.
If your MDMT is coming out to be -10 deg C and the carbon steel in question is not impact tested, you cannot go below -10 deg C in any case as brittle fracture phenomenon is always faster than a ductile fracture. Even at lower stress values, brittle fracture can occur.
What's the stress ratio in your case as per ASME B31.3?
irish
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Re: Use of CS instead of KCS

Post by irish »

What's the CS material? ASTM designation?
Piping size and operating pressure?
Carbon steel pipes in API 5L gr. B and A106 gr. B can withstand temperature up to -29 deg C as per Curve B of Fig. 323.2.2A
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