System testing - Whose responsibility is it....???

[moe]

Dear Sameen,
I fully undersand what you're talking about & thus I answered your query ! you wrote & i quote ( I have never been able to understand the role of QA/QC Engineers in a Project ) & I have summarized some of the QC engineers roles during the project! If that wasn't your query please correct me so that I could be able to answer your queries !
regards

[sameenkhan]

Hi Moe,

First of all, you should remember where are you in the forum... this section is for Electrical & Instrumentation... so all discussion will be related to it there is no confusion or doubt in it... when I say project.... by default it means E&I Project or I&C Project...

If you do understand me... you would have told me QA/QC Engineer roles with respect to I&C Systems Projects... but you rather summarized roles with respect to Mechanical Project...

If you have background in I&C System then you may be able to answer my queries.. otherwise, I think.. I am hitting my head against a wall which is not supposed to here at all..
Please if you don't have any experience in I&C systems & its related projects... please keep out of this discussion as you are not helping the cause...

Furthermore, dear for you information world is more than only mechanical and start thinking out of the box and from others perspective and remember you can't be right every time...

I hope that you got my message...

Regards,
Sameen

[moe]

hey Sameen,
well honestly speaking, I'm yet not familiar with the whole forum thing I've newly joined here, so instead of the aggressive attitude you could have just simply corrected me that's isn't a mechanical thread, even though I was responding to your last query which was completely an inapprehensive at the first sigh i couldn't tell whether you were referring to I&E projects or general projects, & yes I have background more like expereince in I&E more than you could possibly imagine but I would rather not to share nor to discuss 'em with you, anyhow It's all good no hard feelings.

[ashfaqanwer]

Sameen,
Respectfully saying, I am really worried about the way you communicated with moe.

Anybody who knows anything and is sharing on our forums is always welcome whether it satisfies you or not but giving such response would definitely discourage our respected users. We are not here to gauge one's capabilities of understanding or giving you an answer which you may have in your mind. The only purpose is to SHARE KNOWLEDGE & EXPERIENCE.

I hope you will understand.

MOE,
On the behalf of thepetrostreet team, I encourage your passion of sharing your experience on all the forums. Hope you would continue the same.

[sameenkhan]

Hi Ashfaq,

First of all engineers should concentrate in their own field of expertise... I don't know what expertise you or any one hold in mechanical engineering or some other discipline... but it is morally incorrect for me to suggest anything to you for which I don't have adequate knowledge...

I don't discourage any user from sharing knowledge, but knowledge which give rise to more ambiguities is never encouraged and liked by anyone... Here, I'm certainly not judging any one but everyone should judge them self that whether they have necessary competence or knowledge... otherwise... their are people who are competent & knowledgeable... they'll judge you and you'll not like it...

Dear Ashfaq.. I was hoping that you should know that... there is big difference between knowledge & information... googling any topic & adding text to discussion is not knowledge... it is just information have been shared not knowledge...

Furthermore, we are here to understand & share our understanding... Please go through discussion it all started with Moe criticizing I&C engineers which was really un-professional of him and also it gives indication that he knew about the I&C discussion forum. I gave him a suitable reply... I was expecting a positive response from him and in turn he quoted back to me my words, which was again an un-professional & stubborn attitude... Still I replied to him in a professional manner as possible telling him that you are not helping the cause... I didn't discouraged him to post in any other discussion.. but I specifically told him that he does not have experience in the relevant field to answer me appropriately... if he has answer to my query which could satisfy me then everyone is happy... otherwise... MOE should allow other user to answer...

Ashfaq, first of all, please send a link of Forum Rules to Moe.. second, please amend rules to include that user are not allowed to criticize or defame any engineering disciplines or engineers or users...

Furthermore, Ashfaq I understand that we are all here to share knowledge & experience... and I agree that user answers may or may not satisfy me... and I don't care about the answer whether I get it or not... but I do care about how user reply... For you, all members are equal but you should remember to be unbiased when un-professional attitude is shown...

It really worries me.. that after seeing the whole discussion thread you missed a lot of things which I have highlighted in this post... But knowing that you'll understand it quickly and hopefully take necessary actions ASAP to avoid such things in future....

At last, my query is still unanswered...

Regards,
Sameen

[ashfaqanwer]

Anyways Sameen and MOE... Lets settle down with no hard feelings...
We are here to build a very informative environment for everybody. Get embraced and forget if anything is still there in your minds.
Lets not criticize any user and help each other.

And Sameen, I hope that your query will be answered effectively one day, inshaAllah...

Thanks for your understanding please.